Ahh I can't wait for an any Ivy scene at this point..
I has been wanting to include a scene like this for quite some time, and it was finally the moment. I know you're starved for Ivy content, but she's not an easy catch: Jeremy has been trying to get her since Chapter 1 and he's still struggling! Did you make Ivy struggle in the grappling match or was she too much for Ian?
She's a woman though! I mean, it's not really surprising. The idea that cheating is when some guy other than girl's boyfriend sticks his penis in her, while two girls fucking are just a sexy picture to jerk off to isn't exactly uncommon. And there would be probably quite a few people saying exactly this, if the game flat out prevented Lena in relationship from having sex with other women.
What I mentioned happens from Lena's POV, how Ian will react (I meant the choices Eva will give us here for him to react) is yet to be seen. I was merely pointing out what could be coming next. It's pretty evident how that might be the set-up for the future -somes for Lena and Ian.Another dev who thinks a female cheating on her male SO with a female is not really cheating
I don't think it's that; either way - I think Eva could have written these scenarios slightly better. Lena's just wondering over Louise and Ivy, without giving a proper reason for such thoughts. Regardless, it's clear that the F95 crowd are more than happy with the possibilities here, so can one really blame the writer?
I think Lena isn't providing details for her reasoning precisely due to what i said -- because it's a pretty common view when it comes to "cheating standards" so to speak. Consider that Lena also doesn't provide "proper reasons" why she thinks that fucking other dudes behind her boyfriend's back is bad; the writer similarly expects the readers to understand the basis for such views on their own.
Sure, that's an interpretation. I still think differently, that she didn't have that have mindset. Instead, I'm mostly I'm going after Eva's writing/choices here, because I believe it's not the first time Eva writes slightly shallow motives for her characters, like - some motives are just passable. Perhaps it's just Eva streamlining the game a bit, instead of giving more choices to the player and more MCs to accommodate.
That's the only way to make it up Ian for the cheating
Poor Ian, but then again, how does one reject Ivy? I totally get LenaThat's the only way to make it up Ian for the cheating
I think it's both the mating sense, but also and perhaps more the inherent physicality and vulnerability in the M+F pairing. Yes, some women are bigger than men blah blah blah but on average, most heterosexual liasons see the woman put in a position of physical vulnerability due to their size and strength. So from that, a female cheating on a male could be viewed as not only a betrayal but a usurping of that "safe/vulnerable" space dynamic the female and S.O. first had; even more so if the affair-guy is seen as a risk for aggression or violence, which is often the case and probably part of the appeal of themes in games like this.
I think either you misunderstood me or I misunderstood you, because I'm not sure what exactly you're disagreeing with or trying to say there.I think it's both the mating sense, but also and perhaps more the inherent physicality and vulnerability in the M+F pairing. Yes, some women are bigger than men blah blah blah but on average, most heterosexual liasons see the woman put in a position of physical vulnerability due to their size and strength. So from that, a female cheating on a male could be viewed as not only a betrayal but a usurping of that "safe/vulnerable" space dynamic the female and S.O. first had; even more so if the affair-guy is seen as a risk for aggression or violence, which is often the case and probably part of the appeal of themes in games like this.
To me the whole trust part is overstated though; I often hear that as a progressive platitute; "oh, its not the physical act, it's the betrayal of trust in the emotional relationship".
Pardon my french, but that's fuckn bullshit.
If a guy's girlfriend tells him she's going out to eat at McDonalds, then comes back home and he asks, "How was McDonalds?", and she replies, "Hahaha I lied to you, I actually went to Taco Bell", he doesn't feel some deep emotional cut at the betrayal, no, he'd probably say; "Uhhhh well did you get me any gorditas?"
He feels devastated at sexual cheating because another guy had his dick in an area she normally only shows to her doctor and significant other; the physical act itself is extremely relevant in the betrayal.
Cheating is a bunch more than just betrayal of trust. I never said it wasn't. Emotional betrayal goes a lot further than eating at Taco Bell when you said McDonalds. Especially if you dropped the Chalupa, which is unforgiveable. The physical betrayal element just stings on a more primal level.
Eva could call that the Ian-APOS-route: Absolute Piece Of Shit.
